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Nurses at Stanford, Packard hospitals start strike this morning

Original post made on Apr 25, 2022

Nurses at Stanford and Lucile Packard Children's hospitals went on strike this morning after more than three months of unsuccessful contract negotiations.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Monday, April 25, 2022, 10:48 AM

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Posted by Brian
a resident of Menlo Park: The Willows
on Apr 25, 2022 at 11:36 am

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Shame on Stanford, the recorded record profits last year and are willing to pay replacement nurses $15,000 a WEEK (The equivalent or almost $800,000 a year) just to avoid giving their staff nurses a pay bump and provide mental health care. At they same time they are taking away the healthcare benefits from the Nurses who are striking. These are the people played a main part in getting us through Covid. Who worked tirelessly with limited supplies to take care of the really sick people during the pandemic and in many cases had to spend weeks or months away from family to avoid exposing them.

I have to ask with the amount of money Stanford is raking in and they way the treat their people should they really be a non-Profit?


Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Menlo Park: Park Forest
on Apr 26, 2022 at 7:43 am

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Hospital strikes are a lose-lose-lose situation.

The sad truth is that when this strike is over it will have cost both sides more than the cost of a pre-strike negotiated agreement.

Stanford's strike costs include paying replacement nurses, reduced patient care revenues and significant legal fees.

CRONA's costs include their loss of pay and health benefits plus significant legal fees.

BUT the biggest cost is to the community in terms of the loss of timely medical care.


Posted by menlo parent
a resident of Menlo Park: Allied Arts/Stanford Park
on Apr 26, 2022 at 12:28 pm

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I’m sympathetic to the nurses, and to anyone in healthcare right now, but I think this article could have provided a little more perspective. Nurses at Stanford currently make over 150k a year, and in some cases over 200k, a salary higher than many pediatricians, for a position that requires a bachelor’s degree. Stanford has offered a 12% pay raise and they are holding out for 20%. Additionally, the current benefit of six free mental health treatment sessions is very generous compared to other hospitals, and employers in general.

Stanford has struggled with staffing and related adjustments because of COVID, as have all hospitals. Doctors, nurses, techs, housekeeping - all have suffered and made sacrifices.


Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Menlo Park: Park Forest
on Apr 26, 2022 at 12:33 pm

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Both sides should put a Last Best Offer in the hands of an independent arbitrator who would then pick, without any changes, one of them which the parties would have agreed to accept in advance.

Waiting days or weeks will not improve the outcome for either side but will simply raise their sunk costs and harm the community that they serve.


Posted by Enough
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Apr 27, 2022 at 4:12 pm

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If you look it up, it seem that the information available says "Average Stanford Health Care Registered Nurse yearly pay in the United States is approximately $138,555, which is 114% above the national average." That was the data I found in a Google search.

Now I am just curious, do you think the cost of living is this area is only 14% over the national average? Let me give you a comparison, in 2021 the Median home price in the US went to $404,700. Can you find a house for 3 times that around here? Please let me know...
Average rent in Palo Alto (rentcafe.com) is $3,468; nationally it is $1,628 per month (2x). I know they don't have to live in PA but it is a comparison number.

6 sessions for counseling after the years they have been through? that is a drop in the bucket. They need to get well and that is going to take some of them a lot longer that 6 sessions.

They also want Stanford to hire more nurses so they don't have to work as much overtime and are not constantly being asked to take additional shifts. I agree with that, a nurse in her 11th hour on a ward is tired and could make a mistake a fresh nurse would not.

Stanford is raking in record profits, it is time they stopped being so miserly. I personally think executive pay and bonuses should be tied to the pay they are negotiating for nurses. Cap raises at the same percentage. That would probably loosen the purse strings...


Posted by Dawn1234
a resident of Menlo Park: Belle Haven
on Apr 28, 2022 at 12:29 pm

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The speed at which a community turns from oodles of gratitude to "quit complaining" is pretty astounding. Looking at the nursing pay comment above, I wonder how much of that income is bolstered by the overtime the nurses are saying they want to stop being forced to work. They want a living salary and reasonable hours. For a job that is both physically and mentally exhausting? Let's take a minute to think about what they've been through - and then take a glance at the balance sheet of Stanford and make things right. And I'd like to see the hours worked comparison between nurse and pediatrician who is earning less. Along with how many years of experience the higher paid professional has. Stats need background in order to be seen as something other than smoke and mirrors.


Posted by ln
a resident of Menlo Park: Sharon Heights
on May 3, 2022 at 1:05 pm

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@enough :
you may want to rethink your arithmetic. If the information available says (to quote your comment) ""Average Stanford Health Care Registered Nurse yearly pay in the United States is approximately $138,555, which is 114% above the national average." That was the data I found in a Google search." then your cost of living argument makes no sense. The cost of living is not 14% more in the Bay Area, as you state. But it might not be 114% more than the rest of the country. And the Google info you quote says that the average Stanford nurse makes 114% ABOVE the national average, not 14% above the average. Which means the national average is likely around $65,000 for a nurse. At least use the correct numbers for your comparisons. It seems that someone making $140K can find accommodations within a reasonable drive of Palo Alto to make things work. And wages over 2x the national average also seem to be pretty reasonable as well.


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