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Police calls: Road rage in Menlo Park

Original post made on Jul 28, 2015

Crime and accident reports from Woodside, Ladera and Menlo Park.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Tuesday, July 28, 2015, 11:23 AM

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Posted by MEMBERONE
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Jul 28, 2015 at 12:34 pm

Can we get more timely reporting of these incidents.
Many of these items are more than a week old...


Posted by Misrepresentation in wording that suggests a passive 'accident' rather than careless driving
a resident of Menlo Park: The Willows
on Jul 28, 2015 at 3:27 pm

Instead of saying:

A cyclist headed west on Willow Road collided with a westbound Volkswagen Passat as the Volkswagen was turning right at Nash Avenue. After the collision, the cyclist slid and collided with a tree and was taken to a hospital for treatment of non-life-threatening injuries. July 21.

I suspect it SHOULD read:

A westbound Volkswagen Passat made an unsafe right turn at Nash Avenue after failing to merge into the bike lane and failing to observe the bicyclist already in the lane. The cyclist was seriously injured after being hit by the allegedly negligently driven automobile and thrown into a tree. The cyclist was transported to the hospital for treatment.

Anybody else see the difference?


Posted by Downtowner
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Jul 28, 2015 at 5:55 pm

How do you know the motorist "made an unsafe right turn?" Did you witness the event? You are assuming that the cyclist was performing with perfect attention to his/her surroundings. We don't know the precise scenario unless you happened to video it.

I have seen enough inattentive drivers & careless cyclists to know that speculation is often wrong. I witnessed a recent mishap to an unobservant cyclist who, with his head down not watching the road, pedaled full speed into a parked car. He escaped with only a broken wrist because the attentive car drivers in the lane next to him anticipated exactly what was going to happen & stopped completely before he was thrown into auto lane in front of them. Definitely would have been serious If not fatal.

Stop blaming motorists every time a cyclist is injured - or post your video.


Posted by The voice
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Jul 28, 2015 at 5:59 pm

The reports not done so who really knows what happened. This is not the ny times and half the stories are to boost circulation in my opinion


Posted by Sherman
a resident of Menlo Park: The Willows
on Jul 28, 2015 at 6:30 pm

If you need daily updates on MP police calls you can check the MP police blotter.

The bicyclist was wrong-- car was bigger and won. Winning is always right.


Posted by Menlo Voter
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Jul 28, 2015 at 6:40 pm

Menlo Voter is a registered user.

Sherman:

sorry, the cyclist wasn't "wrong." The cyclist was in the right, but due to their lack of mass, they "lost." Bikes usually lose even when cars are wrong.


Posted by Misrepresentation in wording that suggests a passive 'accident' rather than careless driving
a resident of Menlo Park: The Willows
on Jul 28, 2015 at 9:50 pm

Downtowner:

My point is that in the very words used to describe the situation, the motorist must be at fault. s/he turned RIGHT and there was an accident with a bicyclist. There is only a main and bike lane at that location. In order to turn right, the car must CROSS the bike lane. It is never allowed to turn across a lane (bike or otherwise) without first yielding to any other vehicle (bike or car) and merging into the rightmost lane (bike lane or ordinary traffic lane) before turning right.

Given this, and the injured cyclicst, it is nearly inconceivable that the motorist failed to yield and/or merge prior to turning. For bonus accountability, it is most likely that the car passed the cyclist before making this maneuver and should have been aware of the cyclist exercising his/her right of way in the bike lane.

Unfortunately, I rarely observe car drivers (including members of my family) merging properly into the bike lane first.

For everyone's reference, I point you to CVC 21717

Turning Across Bicycle Lane

21717. Whenever it is necessary for the driver of a motor vehicle to cross a bicycle lane that is adjacent to his lane of travel to make a turn, the driver shall drive the motor vehicle into the bicycle lane prior to making the turn and shall make the turn pursuant to Section 22100.
Added Ch. 751, Stats. 1976. Effective January 1, 1977.
Web Link

You can also see it illustrated here:
Web Link

Please learn and share. BTW, if you knew this already, congratulations. Ask a few friends. You may be as shocked as I was when I started asking recently. My unscientific survey suggested that the majority of folks to not know this.


Posted by Evelyn Winnegar
a resident of Atherton: other
on Jul 29, 2015 at 12:21 am

I have a very easy observation that I see every single day. Bicyclists do NOT stop for stop signs on streets, city or rural. There is no reason for acting like a complete scofflaw --in fact many of them speed up for this maneuver and I just pray to God that I never strike one or witness it happening. In the above incident, it certainly appears that the vehicle driver did not yield for the cyclist, but without viewing the incident report, none of us knows this.


Posted by Tunbridge Wells
a resident of Menlo Park: Allied Arts/Stanford Park
on Jul 29, 2015 at 12:25 pm

Tunbridge Wells is a registered user.

Misrepresentation is absolutely correct that a driver is supposed to be as close to the curb as possible before turning right. This requires safely merging into the bike lane before turning. A collision between a person on a bike and a person driving making a right turn very strongly suggests that the driver either turned from the travel lane (incorrect) or merged into the person riding the bike (again, driver error).

I think that we can have the conversation about how drivers are supposed to turn right with out bringing up the totally unrelated subject of stop signs. There is no stop sign on Willow at Nash; it is an attempt to derail the conversation.


Posted by Careful
a resident of Menlo Park: Allied Arts/Stanford Park
on Jul 29, 2015 at 3:29 pm

I have seen members of the spandex set exhibit signs of road rage after I, careful driver fully aware of applicable code, merge safely into the bike lane while signaling for a right turn. This enrages cyclists who must lower their speed slightly while I complete the turn. Cyclists who ignore the law and try to pass on the right do so at their own peril.


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