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Why Atherton might leave county library system

Original post made on Apr 15, 2015

A set of talking points that will be before the Atherton Council for adoption at its
Wednesday, April 15, meeting make it clear that unless concessions are made, the town could leave the county library system.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Wednesday, April 15, 2015, 8:51 AM

Comments (12)

Posted by It's Atherton's turn
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Apr 15, 2015 at 10:20 am

How narrow minded and self-centered Atherton is...No problem sharing the sports fields and parks of other towns, supported by taxpayers in those towns. But when it comes to sharing library capabilities, it's hands off? It's Atherton's turn to support our peninsula communities.


Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Apr 15, 2015 at 10:59 am

Peter Carpenter is a registered user.

Sadly Atherton is following the Willie Sutton Rule:

"I rob banks because that is where the money is"

Just watch, their next target will be the Fire District because the Fire District has been fiscally responsible and has established and properly funded reserves for the replacement of its fire stations and apparatus. So now the Town will try to claim some of those dollars. Fortunately the Fire District has its own publicly elected Board and that Board recognizes its obligation to ALL of the citizens of the Fire District.


Posted by bookworm
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Apr 15, 2015 at 12:49 pm

You would think that Atherton would lose more than it gains. Its library is small, and the overall number of books in the county system is much larger. By opting out, Atherton readers lose easy access to the rest of the system's book's, and the rest of the county only loses access to Atherton. From the rest of the county's perspective, let them go.


Posted by pearl
a resident of another community
on Apr 15, 2015 at 2:32 pm

pearl is a registered user.

Wow, do people still actually use libraries? Borrow library books? Kids still visit libraries? If so, that warms the cockles of my heart. It's been so long since I've seen anyone actually holding a book (instead of a device) in their hand, I had forgotten all about libraries.

Because I am older than the hills, and my eyesight isn't what it used to be, I now read most of my books via my e-reader device, and also my desktop- and laptop computers, because I can make the font size larger, thus making reading much easier for me in my twilight years.

QUESTION: I have a few boxes of books to give away. Who should I contact to come and pick them up?


Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Apr 15, 2015 at 2:37 pm

Peter Carpenter is a registered user.

"QUESTION: I have a few boxes of books to give away. Who should I contact to come and pick them up?"

The Menlo Park VA would love to have them. Email me and I will pick them up and deliver to the VA.


Posted by SteveC
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Apr 15, 2015 at 2:53 pm

SteveC is a registered user.

Nice Peter, very nice. The VA certainly can use the books.


Posted by A Good Deal?
a resident of Atherton: Lloyden Park
on Apr 15, 2015 at 3:49 pm

@Peter regarding the Fire Department ...

Item 22 in this link gives a pretty good treatment of municipal services costs to Atherton, starting with your beloved fire department.

Web Link

You could look at the staffing level of Station #3 and provide a total operational cost
based on a percentage of the overall operations budget, and then, provide an
allocated cost of overhead based on closest station response history for Atherton for
the other stations. There are lots of ways to approach the data. A simplistic view is to
assert that in 2014/15, the total budget (inclusive of admin and capital improvement) is
$37.7m. There are 7 stations. That’s $5.4m per station with distributed overhead and
capital projects included - and $12.6m in revenue from Atherton residents.


Posted by Downtowner
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Apr 15, 2015 at 3:49 pm

By "vehicles," do they mean Atherton wants its own bookmobile? Probably just trying to keep non-resident rabble out of their precious library. They don't share H-P park. Fine. Let's not let 'em into Burgess or any other non-Ath facilities.

In view of the burgeoning school enrollments, it would be funny if MPCSD shrunk boundaries so Atherton would have to put up their own schools & mount their own district.


Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Apr 15, 2015 at 4:05 pm

Peter Carpenter is a registered user.

The problem with this analysis by a Town Manager looking for new revenue sources is that he does not even understand the way that the Fire District receives its tax revenue.

The Town Manager states "will receive approximately $12,645,201 in 2014 from the assessed value of Atherton parcels (i.e. from Atherton residents). " This is flatly wrong - the Fire District receives all of its property taxes as a share of the County wide tax revenues, not on the basis of the assessed values in Atherton.

The Fire District provides exactly the same level of service to all of its 90,000 plus residents and the Fire District does not set its own tax rates.

The citizen of Atherton are served by five fire stations (1, 3, 4, 5 and 6) only one of which has taken property off of the Atherton property tax rolls (3). Would Atherton really want the Fire District to acquire another property in Atherton and take that property of the tax rolls? I doubt it.

The Town would be much better served by learning how to control its own expenditures and to establish replacement reserves for its buildings and rolling stock, as does the Fire District, rather than relying on parcel taxes, private donations for replacement buildings and trying to raid the budgets of better managed agencies.


Posted by peninsula resident
a resident of Menlo-Atherton High School
on Apr 15, 2015 at 7:23 pm

Downtowner wrote:
> They don't share H-P park. Fine. Let's not let 'em
> into Burgess or any other non-Ath facilities.

This is completely baseless. Menlo-ATHERTON Little League uses Holbrook-Palmer Park, and there are numerous other events that are shared with the public, regardless of address.


> it would be funny if MPCSD shrunk boundaries so
> Atherton would have to put up their own schools
> & mount their own district.

Currently, Half of the MPCSD schools are in ATHERTON (it'll be 40% of all MPCSD schools once Upper Laurel comes online). The school district headquarters is also in ATHERTON.

If MPCSD removed itself from Atherton, we'd get Encinal, Lower Laurel and the HQ. No crowding issues for Atherton, but Menlo Park would have to cram k-5 into "O'Connor" and Oak Knoll. Good luck with that.

Please, by all means, shrink MPCSD so it's only in Menlo Park.


Posted by peninsula resident
a resident of Menlo-Atherton High School
on Apr 15, 2015 at 10:20 pm

Atherton's contribution to the Library JPA if Mr. DeGolia's proposal (which has been derided by some of the Menlo Park residents in this thread) is adopted: About $500,000 per year.

Menlo Park's contribution to the Library JPA, in the past, present and foreseeable future: Zero.

Menlo Park and Menlo Park residents are in no position to criticize Atherton's financial contributions to the JPA, considering Menlo Park contributes nothing.






Posted by Pam
a resident of another community
on Apr 16, 2015 at 5:28 pm

It sounds like Atherton only wants to leave the San Mateo County Library System, one of many jurisdictions within the county of San Mateo, and not the Peninsula Library System. Many cities, like Menlo Park, have their own city library system and are still a part of the Peninsula Library System. If Atherton wants their own city system, I say go for it!


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