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A Tale of Two Signs

Original post made by Peter Carpenter, Atherton: Lindenwood, on Oct 6, 2014

Here are two yard signs:

Web Link

Web Link


The FPPC requires that "(1) Disclosures shall include “paid for by” in the same manner as, and immediately adjacent to and above, or immediately adjacent to and in front of, the required identification."

Only the No on Measure M sign complies with this disclosure law.

How can the Measure M people be trusted to write a zoning ordinance when they cannot even understand a one sentence disclosure requirement?

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Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Oct 6, 2014 at 4:50 pm

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And to add to their disregard for the law this illegal sign was also illegally placed on CalTrain property at the Oak Grove crossing:

Web Link


Posted by Gern
a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Oct 6, 2014 at 5:16 pm

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Peter, under section (a) of Web Link there is:

"The disclosure requirements of Sections 84503 and 84506(a)(2) shall not apply to general purpose committees, as defined by Section 82027.5."

The text quoted above precedes by one short paragraph the law which you appear to have quoted -- I'm not at all sure how you could have missed it unless you wished to. Now, we all remember how you famously -- infamously, perhaps -- established SaveMenlo as a general purpose committee (Web Link but perhaps I'm missing some legal nuance here.

Are you, or are you not dead wrong with this particular accusation?

Gern


Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Oct 6, 2014 at 5:29 pm

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Gern _ you missed the details - again:
"84506. (a) An advertisement supporting or opposing a candidate or
ballot measure, that is paid for by an independent expenditure, shall
include a disclosure statement that identifies both of the
following:
(1) The name of the committee making the independent expenditure."

Note that is section 84506 (a) 1 , not 84506(a)(2).

Details, details......

And in any case why do Measure M signs omit the phrase "paid for by"?

They have once again chosen ignorance as their ally - SAD.


Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Oct 6, 2014 at 7:17 pm

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Turns out that Menlo Park Deserves Better is also a General Purpose Committee.

Which raises the question why is Save Menlo looking for loopholes to hide in and Menlo Park Deserves Better is bending over to have full disclosure and transparency?

Perhaps because Save Menlo wrote its initiative in secret, never sought public input and refuse to disclose the name of its lawyer and what are the other clients of that lawyer. Hiding is a habit.


Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Oct 6, 2014 at 8:06 pm

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Gern - Why are you hiding?
What are you hiding?


Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Oct 7, 2014 at 7:28 am

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Lo and behold - Thanks to the Almanac's posting of the FPPC filings we discover that Save Menlo filed as a Primarily Formed Candidate/Office Holder Committee, not a General Purpose or , strangely, a Ballot Measure Committee (even though its filing name is Save Menlo, A Committee for Measure M.)


Web Link

Two problems:
1 - They previously claimed to be a General Purpose Committee as an excuse for not filing earlier reports
2 - The disclaimer on there lawn signs does not comply with the law for a Primarily Formed Candidate/Office Holder Committee.

How can we trust these folks to write a complex zoning ordinance when they do not even know what kind of a committee they are?


Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Oct 7, 2014 at 9:44 am

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I filed a complaint with California's Fair Political Practices Commission on May 16 alleging that the Save Menlo improperly claimed to be a general purpose committee when it's really a ballot-measure committee. Save Menlo responded by swearing that it was a General Purpose Committee and the FPPC took them at their word.

Now Save Menlo has filed its required financial report and states that it is actually a Primarily Formed Candidate/Office Holder Committee - which has the same reporting requirements as a Ballot Measure Committee.

Clearly Save Menlo has no problem with lying to the FPPC - either their prior statement was a falsehood or their current filing is a falsehood.

And, given their expenditures, they probably should be filing as a Ballot Measure Committee.

How can we trust someone to write complex zoning laws when they cannot comply with the Campaign Finance Laws?


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