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Forget about "replace". Repeal Obamacare and get government out of the way

Original post made by Jack Hickey, Woodside: Emerald Hills, on Mar 24, 2017

If today's vote fails, Trump should call for a vote for a simple repeal of Obamacare.

Government is the problem, they ignore the obvious solution.

In an OpEd I wrote several years ago, entitled "Continuum in a healthy society", Web Link I said this about healthcare:
"Healthcare begins at home. Grandma’s remedies, soup from a neighbor, practical advice from a local practitioner "Take two aspirins and call me in the morning,” a healthy lifestyle, etc. are all part of the health care solutions continuum. Government’s role in dealing with practitioners should focus on fraud. Mandating state licenses unnecessarily narrows the continuum. Credentials, obtained from reliable sources, should suffice to allow malpractice insurers to issue coverage. Indeed, perhaps these insurers could establish the credentialing criteria. And, those who seek care from "credentialed” practitioners would pay a premium for such choice. Universal healthcare is socialized medicine with a facelift. It doesn’t work! A continuum unshackled from social tinkerers would lead to a healthier society.

Comments

Posted by Healthcare is a Human Right
a resident of Woodside: Emerald Hills
on Mar 24, 2017 at 12:18 pm

Hickey "Mandating state licenses unnecessarily narrows the continuum."

There ya go - that says it all.

Mr. Hickey wants unlicensed practitioners to work on your family. If they turn out to be quacks, The Invisible Hand of the Free Market will eventually root the quacks out of business. In the meantime, you get unlimited visits... to your child's graveside.


Hickey "Universal healthcare is socialized medicine with a facelift. It doesn’t work!"

Except in every other industrialized country, which all get better overall healthcare outcomes at considerably less investment.

"US Spends More on Health Care Than Other High-Income Nations But Has Lower Life Expectancy, Worse Health" Web Link

Let's start with lowering the eligibility age for Medicare.

To zero.

America should be able to do BETTER than other nations, not worse. Do not listen to the lies of a Hickey or a Trump.


Posted by Jack Hickey
a resident of Woodside: Emerald Hills
on Mar 24, 2017 at 12:44 pm

Jack Hickey is a registered user.

"Mr. Hickey wants unlicensed practitioners to work on your family

I want families to have a choice they can afford. There are many individuals, without MD's behind their name, who could provide basic medical advice and treatment, at a fraction of the cost of our government regulated system. They should be a part of the healthy continuum of which I speak.


Posted by Jack Hickey
a resident of Woodside: Emerald Hills
on Mar 24, 2017 at 1:25 pm

Jack Hickey is a registered user.

Looks like the Republicans who want to see Obamacare self-destruct have won the day.
I hope it doesn't take too long.


Posted by Healthcare is a Human Right
a resident of Woodside: Emerald Hills
on Mar 24, 2017 at 1:34 pm

Hickey "...want to see Obamacare self-destruct have won the day.
I hope it doesn't take too long."

Mr. Hickey wants to see the healthcare market self-destruct. Isn't that JUST the person from whom to take governance advice!!


Also: ObamaCare is not self-destructing, according to none other than the Congressional Budget Office. The ACA has gone 6 years without adjustments and fixes, thanks to GOP obstructionism. Time to get the GOP and Democrats in the same room and make some fixes to lower costs.


Posted by Jack Hickey
a resident of Woodside: Emerald Hills
on Mar 24, 2017 at 1:43 pm

Jack Hickey is a registered user.

"Mr. Hickey wants to see the healthcare market self-destruct."
Quite the contrary. I want to see the healthcare market evolve into a natural "continuum' of choices.


Posted by Yet More Of The Same Nonsense
a resident of another community
on Mar 24, 2017 at 1:46 pm

Jack Hickey -- "Quite the contrary. I want to see the healthcare market evolve into a natural "continuum' of choices."

1) You have no idea what you are talking about.
2) Stop it with the neo-Darwinian nonsense.
3) Remember: Libertarianism only sounds great to those whose intellectual growth stopped at the age of 14.
4) The Republican "plan" was a disaster in the making. Any attempt to portray it as an actual alternative to the ACA is disingenuous at best.


Posted by Healthcare is a Human Right
a resident of Woodside: Emerald Hills
on Mar 24, 2017 at 1:58 pm

Mr. Hickey now claims he didn't say: "Looks like the Republicans who want to see Obamacare self-destruct have won the day. I HOPE IT DOESN'T TAKE TOO LONG" (to self-destruct)

Debate classes must have also stopped at the age of 14.

Mr. Hickey has been listening to Mr. Trump tell bald-faced lies for too long, he feels he can also lie with impunity as well.

How about this Golden Lie from Trump - Fox: "Trump vows to repeal ObamaCare on day one of presidency"


Posted by Jack Hickey
a resident of Woodside: Emerald Hills
on Mar 24, 2017 at 2:09 pm

Jack Hickey is a registered user.

"The Republican "plan" was a disaster in the making. Any attempt to portray it as an actual alternative to the ACA is disingenuous at best."

I am not a supporter of the "Republican Plan" I am an opponent of Obamacare. I am a supporter of common sense.

Example of common sense:
I am not employed by Mylan, but I do think it makes common sense for teachers to be trained to perform routine medical tasks commonly done by parents of children at risk of anaphylaxis. Nurses unions, of course, support legislation which would protect them from this intrusion on their territory.

Web Link


Posted by Yet More Of The Same Nonsense
a resident of another community
on Mar 24, 2017 at 2:16 pm

Jack Hickey -- "I am not a supporter of the "Republican Plan" I am an opponent of Obamacare. I am a supporter of common sense."

Well, at least we now know you're a politician -- you contradict yourself every time you post here.

And posting a propaganda posting by a company that moved its operations overseas so that it wouldn't pay U.S. taxes? Seriously?


Posted by MS
a resident of Atherton: other
on Mar 24, 2017 at 5:07 pm

Sorry jack, the GOP can't govern at the National level. Look at how they are doing with complete control.

Look how they did from 2002 to 2006.

Libertarians have never been proven to govern successfully either.

Look at Brownback in Kansas. Disaster.

Sad!


Posted by Healthcare is a Human Right
a resident of Woodside: Emerald Hills
on Mar 24, 2017 at 6:16 pm

From the favorite right wing and libertarian source of TrumpCare news - RT, Russia Today:


Rep. Joe Barton of Texas said members of his party were perhaps less willing to own the political consequences of repealing Obamacare than they expressed under President Barack Obama.

“Sometimes you’re playing Fantasy Football and sometimes you’re in the real game, we knew the president, if we could get a repeal bill to his desk, would almost certainly veto it. This time we knew if it got to the president’s desk it would be signed.”

Web Link


Sometimes you’re playing Fantasy Football and sometimes you’re in the real game.

Uhhhh.....


Posted by Healthcare is a Human Right
a resident of Woodside: Emerald Hills
on Mar 25, 2017 at 11:52 am

Rather tastes even better the day after, like any good leftovers...

"@realDonaldTrump
We will immediately repeal and replace ObamaCare - and nobody can do that like me. We will save $'s and have much better healthcare!
2:15 PM - 9 Feb 2016"

Idiot had 17 days while the bill was being debated, modified and whipped. He took three trips to Mar a Lago to golf during that time.

Incompetent. AND UTTERLY LAZY.


Posted by good bye HRC,
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Mar 25, 2017 at 7:57 pm

I'm just happy I don't have to see that squeaky voiced [portion removed; keep it civil or don't post on this forum] climbing up the campaign plane anymore, Everything else is gravy.


Posted by Yet More Of The Same Nonsense
a resident of another community
on Mar 25, 2017 at 8:20 pm

"I'm just happy I don't have to see that squeaky voiced fat [expletive deleted] pair of pants suits climbing up the campaign plane anymore"

And look what you got -- a buffoon for a president, with a group of neo-Nazis and grade-A incompetents "serving" him.

Yeah, definite gravy there, chum.


Posted by good bye HRC
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Mar 25, 2017 at 8:38 pm


I'm confused are they Nazi's or Russian sympathisers

You do know the difference?

Me thinketh you watch too much Rachel Maddow/MSNBC. How about that count down to Trumps tax returns?

Sorry folks nothing to see here, except 136M in Federal Taxes,

next question


Posted by Yet More Of The Same Nonsense
a resident of another community
on Mar 25, 2017 at 8:48 pm

That all you have, spanky?

You need to lay off the Breitbart and Fox "News" yourself, because it's obvious you can't think for yourself.

Try again.


Posted by CrescentParkAnon.
a resident of another community
on Mar 27, 2017 at 2:44 am

Boooo !

Why is it that some Americans always want to start back at square one as if we have not learned anything in over 200 years of our union, or 500 years of Western civilization. Why are all the country that view health care and other social support systems as human rights beating us on almost every metric of a civilized society?

I do not think there are very many people out there that really think this way.

I also think that with a few questions or negative experiences in their lives or their loved ones, if they have any, they would change their minds and learn the error of their ways.

If we change ObamaCare, and we should, it should be to Universal Single Payer Health Care for all ... most easy to extend medicare down. There are manifold benefits to doing this, and one of them is that it takes a huge stream of money away from the useless people of the world who want to get big time pay for doing nothing - ie health insurance companies, and then use that money to influence our political system so it can get worse.


Posted by just Justine
a resident of Woodside: Emerald Hills
on Apr 14, 2017 at 10:39 am

Now the GOP realizes they can't repeal OR replace the Conservative Heritage Foundation plan called ObamaCare, the one Romney used for romneycare.


"In four straight elections, we told the American people we wanted to repeal and replace Obamacare. Obviously that’s a lot harder to do than to say. … If the House is able to pass it, we’ll have a big challenge trying to pass it in the Senate as well." Mitch McC

Trump should go for the best low cost solution left: single payer. Since Obama co-opted the only viable Republican plan.


Posted by CrescentParkAnon.
a resident of another community
on Apr 15, 2017 at 11:30 am

-- Trump should go for the best low cost solution left: single payer.

Yes, there is an effort in CA, and an effort in the House already.
With the escalating abuses we keep seeing, and not just in health
care, Single Payer is the only way to get what is needed to be done
in Health Care and not just funnel money to Health Insurance companies
that have shown bad faith again and again.

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