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Raise for fire chief still leaves him making less than his deputy
Original post made on Mar 2, 2017
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a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Mar 2, 2017 at 5:31 pm
The Fire Board (all 5) approved the chief's raise. The fire district is not like a city or town, it serves 3 communities to include the SLAC and southern San Mateo county. I would be interested in other special districts fire chief's salaries. Woodside Fire District Fire Chief has half as many firefighters, yet Schapelhouman makes $21,000.00 more in salary.
We in his district thank him for his service to our community and country as a member of the FEMA TF-3. It maybe be time for him to move on and give other members of his department a chance to be chief and reap the benefits of his experience and mentorship.
Someone with his training, experience, and administrative skills should not be wasted. Use his time as the chief until his tenure is over in (June 2018) to go to good use. Maybe this is worth it to the Menlo Fire for an additional $21,000.00
Is his second in command ready or other employees within the district ready to assume the command?
For that price to us taxpayers, he should be ready to help the organization to carry on in it's great tradition.
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Mar 3, 2017 at 8:34 am
Interesting -- the Secretaries of State, Defense, Homeland Security, etc. earn less than the fire chief.
And how many employees work at each of those agencies?
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Mar 3, 2017 at 10:11 am
Just a quick note to express thanks to Ms. Wood and the others at the Almanac for writing this article and others like it. Shining light where it needs to be shined. Please keep it up. This is the best way to increase visibility and awareness in our community on how our taxes are spent, and is very effecting for starting public discussions to gauge if we, together, agree on how they are spent at Menlo Fire vs. other services (city staff, parks, schools, police, etc.)
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Mar 3, 2017 at 10:17 am
Bob,
Silicon Valley created high salaries and the surrounding public community salaries. Too bad our area does not reflect a real measure for monetary salaries.
In order to hire good managers, we need to pay for it. I know, it does not make it right!
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Mar 3, 2017 at 10:35 am
To the last post from "High Price to Pay," I tend to agree with your sentiment if not for the fact that, as MPFD officials have expressed in the Almanac before, they are flooded with very high quality applicants every time a new position is posted. Following basic HR principals, if this is the condition, then these positions are overcompensated. With so many other city and regional District departments struggling to find funding to cover their basic needs, it seems worthwhile to re-prioritize and re-balance tax proceeds based on needs.
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Mar 3, 2017 at 1:50 pm
At the risk of exciting a strong rebuke from Peter Carpenter, the amount of senior management compensation here seems amazingly high, given the scope of responsibility.
The fire district is a small organization. Does it take senior managers with combined over $500k in annual compensation complemented by extraordinary benefits to lead it effectively? Is it possible that the agency is "overfunded" relative to its mission?
This looks to me like a case where the compensation level keeps going up because the basis of compensation levels is benchmarking nearby districts. This is a similar dynamic to how CEO compensation has gotten out of reason for large corporations.
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Mar 3, 2017 at 2:20 pm
Peter Carpenter is a registered user.
"At the risk of exciting a strong rebuke from Peter Carpenter,"
No rebuke from me on your comment. These are public funds and public information and quite proper to debate.
I would note that the Chief is years beyond his eligible retirement date and is therefore netting only 10% more pay in comparison to what he is eligible for if he walked away today. He stays because he loves what he does, he does it very well and he feels that he owes it to the residents of the Fire District to stay at the helm.
We are lucky to have his experience, skills and dedication.
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Mar 4, 2017 at 8:45 am
Thanks Almanac for removing my last comment. Sometimes the truth hurts and freedom of speech is dead with this voice of Menlo Park....
associate editor of The Almanac
on Mar 4, 2017 at 10:32 am
Renee Batti is a registered user.
High price to pay, we have no problem with criticism here, but I'm curious: What comment was removed? Was it on this thread? I see no evidence that one of your comments was removed. You can repost any comment that you think disappeared, or email me at rbatti@AlmanacNews.com
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Mar 5, 2017 at 9:09 pm
Again the Almanac cites employees counts that are inconsistent and misleading. Menlo Park's employee number used in this article includes anyone who received even a single paycheck, no matter the amount or length of employment. It is misleading in the sense that this compares part-time, temporary, and seasonal workers (e.g. Teenage Summer camp staff) to other full time equivalent (FTE) employee counts at agencies that offer vastly different programs and services.
a resident of Menlo Park: Allied Arts/Stanford Park
on Mar 6, 2017 at 1:16 am
Peter,
Can you explain further the retirement details compared to the current wage?
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Mar 6, 2017 at 7:01 am
Peter Carpenter is a registered user.
"the retirement details compared to the current wage?"
In California firefighters participate in a 3% at 50 retirement plan that allows a firefighter to retire after 30 years of service with 90% (3% x 30 years) of their last years salary. The very few firefighters who, like our Chief, elect to continue working after 30 years of service do so effectively for only 10% of their salary - and they continue to contribute into the retirement plan based on 100% of their salary.
Let me know if the above answers your question.
a resident of Atherton: other
on Mar 6, 2017 at 8:52 am
Fire chief base salary = $265,000.
Public Safety Pension Formula = 3% times salary times years of service.
Fire Chief Salary in retirement today = 3% times $265,000 times 36 = $286,200. He is actually costing the District more in pension costs the longer he stays and is working at a loss each year.
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Mar 6, 2017 at 9:04 am
Peter Carpenter is a registered user.
"Public Safety Pension Formula = 3% times salary times years of service. "
But this is capped at 90% regardless of the number of years served beyond 30.
a resident of Atherton: other
on Mar 6, 2017 at 10:53 am
@Peter - agreed as to what the Chief would make in retirement as final compensation but is the District currently paying its pension obligation on his full salary? In other words, although his earnings are capped at retirement at a lower amount, is the district overpaying on his behalf its employer share?
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Mar 6, 2017 at 11:18 am
Peter Carpenter is a registered user.
"is the District currently paying its pension obligation on his full salary?
Yes and the Chief continues to pay his contribution on his current salary.
These "overpayments" are required by CalPERS and the best that can be said is that these "overpayments" make a small contribution to reduce CalPERS's massive underfunding.
a resident of Menlo Park: Suburban Park/Lorelei Manor/Flood Park Triangle
on Jul 17, 2017 at 2:44 pm
Due to repeated violations of our Terms of Use, comments from this poster are automatically removed. Why?