Atherton panel: Stepping off college admissions treadmill

It seems as if our communities have been talking about getting off the college admissions treadmill for a number of years, but each year it becomes more difficult to get into traditionally selective or traditionally not so selective universities. Ten years ago, a student needed a 3.3 GPA to get in to the University of Michigan. Now it is a 3.8-3.9. Despite the Palo Alto suicides, Stanford's admissions rate keeps getting smaller, with the running joke that admission is now a negative possibility.

In my mind, the not so subtle peninsula parental agenda is to get a kiddo into Stanford University. It begins with finding the right real estate agent who can close an offer in the right public school district, continues with private soccer and basketball coaching, club sports, tutoring, accelerated math, piano lessons, a family trip to Europe, private school admission, test prep, 4-7 AP classes, vacationary mission trips, college essay coaching and shmoosing teachers and family connections for great recommendation letters. Being born a legacy applicant also helps.

I would like to see Stanford University take the lead among all highly selective universities and begin admitting students who have not subscribed to the college treadmill script. What would it be like to admit 1,500 students who are not exceptional, but perhaps more ordinary, but come with stories of poverty, unemployed or absence parents, after school jobs at fast food restaurants, or rising above the crap and oppression that inhabits many public urban high schools? What would be the educational impact to provide more ordinary students with exceptional teaching and propel them into the world, armed with their real world experiences? Hard to say, but I'd like to believe that these students would graduate with more grit, more empathy, and a desire to serve others for the greater good.

One way off the treadmill is for parents to understand that not all children are cut out for college. There's no shame in that. The other way is to open up trade schools again. You have any idea why plumbers and electricians are so expensive and make so much? Because there aren't enough of them. There's no shame in working as a tradesman. They provide a valuable service and they don't need to be college educated.

The focus on elite universities is a bit outdated but has become more prominent as people buy into the notion that somehow attending an Ivy or Stanford will define them for life. There is some truth to the notion many fields such as private equity are heavily inhabited by grads of elite schools, and it may prove easier to access top tier professional programs coming from such a school. That being said success in life is not defined by where you graduated. The vast majority of the successful people in this world did not attend an elite college or university. Many of those that attend are very ordinary people , not any different from the many who though qualified we're not admitted. Much of this arms race of tutors and cram courses and resume building has become big business and it contributes to the high stress drudgery that many kids think is normal for a 16 year old. I feel sorry for these kids. No wonder they are unhappy. The teen suicide rate reflects this unhealthy dynamic.

The local schools are complicit. I have raised the homework overload with our kid's school a couple times, and the message I get back is that "but other parents haven't complained" or something to the effect of "it's your kid's fault that s/he is not very efficient, or doing homework until 10-11pm and doesn't finish it all"

Schools and teachers have seriously unrealistic expectations of how long it takes many students to do all their assignments, and how much available time the kids have after sports/music/chores/family activities. Kids don't have time to breath.

To Menlo Voter and other folks with similar opinions "oh they can just go to trade school"

Of course that's a great option, but ignores the fact of life here that college and grad school educated people in the US do make substantially more money that the typical non-college educated adult. Only so many people have the aptitude for highly skilled trades as well.

With the insane cost of living around here, people have little choice but to seek out careers that will at least pay enough to rent a local apartment. It takes a degree and luck for most people.

The rat race has escalated to a frenzy. I'm personally ready to leave the bay area, but my family is not. So we stay and pay through the nose and throw our kids to the wolves.

aargh:

that's great. You "throw our kids to the wolves." That's just lovely. Not all children are cut out for college. If we don't start training our future plumbers and electricians we are going to end up paying through the nose for that work to be done. Go ahead, throw your kids to the wolves. I'm not willing to do that and I find it disgusting that there are those like you who would.

@ arrgghhhh!!!!

Completely agree with you on the homework situation. This may not help you depending on how old your child(ren) are, and where your child(ren) are enrolled, but informed by a large body of recent research, Oak Knoll Elementary in the MPCSD has significantly reduced the homework load. There are also efforts by parents at Hillview Middle School to ensure students aren't experiencing excessive stress from excessive homework. Hopefully those efforts will have some impact. The high school homework load, particularly in Junior year, is outrageous! I don't know about any efforts to reduce it, but seems like surveying the parent population about this topic would be a great idea.

I fully understand your frustration. We're all trying to to do what we feel is best for our children. Try not to let Menlo Voter's comment get to you.

I hate to say that these discussions about homework have been going on for years. My kids graduated from Hillview in 1993 and 1997 and we had long meetings about the amount of homework, whether it was worth it or not, how to relieve the stress, etc. So I suppose nothing really changes. The teachers at Hlllview did have the students track their days for about two weeks and were appalled at how much time the students 'worked' - from the time they got to school, did the school day, sports or whatever, homework - they were 'working' some 50 hours a week...I don't know if it's the same now but might be a good idea to do that again.

For what it's worth,

If you're grooming your kids for Universities like Stanford, I use to rent a house to some people that were in the admissions department at Stanford.

I asked them how do they decide who gets in when they have 5 times more applicants than openings that are, class presidents, valedictorians, top athletes, champions of the chess club, school paper editors, multilingual, having travelled, or several of the above combined, ...you get the point,

In a simple one line answer

He said "What we are looking for are kids that "Want to change the world"

So when you're filling out those applications, yes you need to check some of the boxes above, but add a page explaining how your child is different and their plan to change the world.