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Traffic hampered firefighters responding to East Palo Alto house fire

Original post made by Peter Carpenter, Atherton: Lindenwood, on Jan 15, 2015

This article was in the Palo Alto Weekly - it clearly deserves to be in the Almanc as well:

"Traffic hampered firefighters responding to East Palo Alto house fire
Problem is also delaying emergency response for Palo Alto Fire Department

by Sue Dremann and Bay City News Service / Palo Alto Weekly


Menlo Park firefighters saved an East Palo Alto home from burning after the cluttered garage caught fire. Photo by Sue Dremann.



Firefighters were hampered from reaching an East Palo Alto home on Monday evening when a fire broke out because of heavy traffic. And the problem of delayed response times is becoming an increasing concern for departments across the area, including in Palo Alto, local fire chiefs said.

While firefighters quickly knocked down Monday's blaze, the majority of fire trucks arrived on scene eight minutes behind the first engine due to the traffic congestion. The first unit arrived by 6:11 p.m., but others could not arrive until 6:19 p.m., Menlo Park Fire Protection District Chief Harold Schapelhouman said on Tuesday.

"It makes me nervous to hear calls like that, because stuff can go wrong," he said.

The delays are concerning for local chiefs, including Palo Alto Fire Chief Eric Nickel. In Palo Alto, responders are delayed by up to 30 seconds each time they go out during morning and evening commutes, and 30 percent of the runs take place during those hours, he said.

Schapelhouman said that good news for the economy is bad news for public safety.

"In the last nine months our guys have noticed a huge uptick in the amount of traffic on calls we're responding to. It's delaying our response and with a fire, you want to get there as soon as possible," he said.

The Menlo Park Fire Protection District strives to be on scene within eight minutes, but Schapelhouman said that has become increasingly difficult in recent months due to roadway conditions.

Nickel agreed.

"We experience this a lot. I get very nervous as a fire chief," he said, adding that he has ridden along with crews and watched what happens. The department began tracking the problem in the late part of 2014. Nickel has talked to the City Council about his concerns, he said.

The problem is exacerbated by understaffing during workdays, he said.

"Palo Alto is a tale of two cities. During the day, the population is 150,000 to 175,000 people, but the department is built to handle 85,000 -- the 65,000 in Palo Alto and 20,000 at Stanford. We're the right size for 85,000. To meet the daytime population, we would need 10 to 12 stations. We have six," he said.

The department is looking at how to accommodate that population increase; first-responders not only fight fires, but they take care of traffic accidents, injuries and emergency medical conditions.

Nickel said the department is looking at staffing more resources during the busy times of the day by positioning personnel doing inspections and training in strategic parts of the city to respond quickly in an emergency. The department is also considering smaller, rapid-response trucks that are pick-up sized to get in and assess the situation he said.

The department has an automatic-aid agreement with Mountain View's fire department, which sends the nearest available engines to the scene, regardless of the city. That arrangement has been equitable, he said, with each department having responded to about 25 calls across city borders.

"We've noticed an improvement in responses because of that. It's working really well," he said.

Palo Alto is trying to work out a similar agreement with Menlo Park Fire, he said. Currently, the two departments have a mutual-aid agreement, by which they help each other when needed, but it is not automatic, he said."
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There is no way that the existing MPFPD fire stations can support Menlo Park's proposed buildout of the M 2 area.

Comments

Posted by Tunbridge Wells
a resident of Menlo Park: Allied Arts/Stanford Park
on Jan 15, 2015 at 11:55 am

Tunbridge Wells is a registered user.

So Peter, if the fire district is concerned about automobile congestion leading to delayed response times, has the district put any thought into supporting efforts to encourage alternatives to automobiles? Dumbarton Rail, El Camino BRT, improved bike infrastructure, shuttles to/from Caltrain are all things that make leaving the car in the garage a more attractive and feasible alternative. I know it's not technically in the Fire District's wheelhouse, but if vehicle congestion is a problem for response times, supporting projects that get people out of their cars would also help the Fire District.


Posted by GPAC member
a resident of Menlo Park: Belle Haven
on Jan 15, 2015 at 12:30 pm

Chief Schapelhouman has been a strong advocate for Dumbarton Rail and bike lanes at our GPAC meetings for a while now.


Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Jan 15, 2015 at 1:02 pm

Peter Carpenter is a registered user.

The Fire District continues to ask the City of Menlo Park for traffic improvements and the response of the City has been to add bulb outs and parking on critical response routes like Willow.

Menlo Gateway is just one more example of where the City of Menlo Park, acting as the lead agency, conveniently forgot about the impact of this project on the Fire District. As lead agency the city is required by law to represent the interest of non-lead agencies - that did not happen. Instead the City Council insisted on more flowers at Menlo Gateway rather than a dime for fire services.

In the city's plans for the up zoning of M 2 there is ZERO mention of the need for a new fire station and additional equipment to serve that proposed expansion.

What Menlo Park evidently wants to do is have the Fire District reduce its service levels to Belle Haven in order to serve Menlo Gateway and the rest of the M 2 expansion.. As the recent fire in East Palo Alto shows that is playing a dangerous game with public safety. Fire engines from west of 101 had to use University Ave in Palo Alto to respond to the East Palo Alto fire.


Posted by ntmp
a resident of Menlo Park: The Willows
on Jan 15, 2015 at 2:03 pm

Peter, the bulb outs have been on Willow from before any of the current council members were elected. The no-growth crowd (including Chuck Bernstein) have been working to make this worse, not better. http://willowstraffichoax.com


Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Jan 15, 2015 at 2:22 pm

Peter Carpenter is a registered user.

Any elected body bears responsibility for all the policies and practices of the entity which they serve and they don't get to blame problems on their predecessors. "It didn't happen on my watch" is no excuse.

And the CURRENT city staff and council fought tooth and nail NOT to adopt the State Fire Code which would gives the Fire District veto rights over any changes to the Fire District's primary response routes - East Palo Alto, Atherton and the County all adopted that Fire Code without change.


Posted by ntmp
a resident of Menlo Park: The Willows
on Jan 15, 2015 at 3:05 pm

Be careful what you ask for. Not so long ago, Steven Kennedy was able to walk onto this board without need for an election. Now this board has become a haven for failed candidates to state assemble, city council and the high school district (Menlo Park voters have never elected failed candidates to city council). If Vince Bressler and Drew Combs were to be elected to this board in 2015, the new majority would empower Chuck Bernstein to sabotage (Web Link development projects.


Posted by Familiar
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Jan 15, 2015 at 6:45 pm


This is not merely problem of an area infrastructure that cannot sustain its growth. This is literally a life and death issue. The life saved or the death prevented could be yours.

The roads cannot get wider and the only place for building to go is up. Mass transit service is years away from funding or feasibility. The number of homeowners are not being reduced, so it falls to business to reduce their staff commute demands and traffic footprint.

This could be done almost immediately by simply reorganizing work schedules of those large employers and within Stanford to change their daytime staffing demands. To area employers: Please consider alternate work schedules, satellite sites closer to work staff homes away from the Penisula and Stanford classes off campus.

The solution to area traffic problems rests primarily within Stanford University and large Palo Alto and Menlo Park companies. I have watched and experienced the ebb and flow of area traffic problems for over 30 years. When Stanford University is on Sunmer and Winter breaks, traffic was manageable. It was possible to drive across town in 10 minutes. When Stanford is in session, crossing town can take 45 minutes and single commute time collision on Sand Hill Road or Willow Road will impact all freeway traffic regionally.

With Stanford Hospital expansion and the explosive growth of Palo Alto companies, the forecast is for no seasonal relief. Let's pull staff management methods out of the 19th century.

When Peninsula fire damage, preventable death rates and attendant crime and insurance rates soar, local residents may take notice.


Posted by Martin Lamarque
a resident of Menlo Park: Belle Haven
on Jan 15, 2015 at 9:27 pm

And of course, it doesn't help that every time they go out on a call--whether it is because someone passed out, or is having chest pain--they have to unnecessarily drive their huge fire engine to the site.
Seems to me that for medical calls, one ambulance would suffice.


Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Jan 16, 2015 at 11:02 am

Peter Carpenter is a registered user.

This motion is on the Fire Board's agenda on 20 Jan:

“The Fire District will not support and will oppose all actions regarding the proposed M2 upzoning until and unless the City of Menlo Park can provide binding guarantees that ensure the funding for the additional Fire District facilities, equipment and staffing necessary to provide for the expanded fire services to serve this additional demand.

The Fire District will not approve any new construction in the M 2 zone until and unless the City of Menlo Park can provide binding guarantees that ensure the funding for the additional Fire District facilities, equipment and staffing necessary to provide for the expanded fire services to serve this additional demand.

Until the City of Menlo Park can provide binding guarantees that ensure the funding for the additional Fire District facilities, equipment and staffing necessary to provide for the expanded fire services to serve the proposed new M 2 zoning any new construction approved in the M 2 zone by the City of Menlo Park should note that the Fire District is unable to ensure fire protection for such construction.”



Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Jan 16, 2015 at 11:07 am

Peter Carpenter is a registered user.

"Seems to me that for medical calls, one ambulance would suffice."

Unfortunately the ambulances in San Mateo County are the responsibility of the County Health Department, not the Fire District. In fact the Fire District is prohibited by law from providing ambulance service. Often the nearest County ambulance is 30 min away. The Fire District always responds to a medical call and always has trained EMS firefighters on the response engine but they can only provide on-scene care and must wait for a County ambulance if transport is required.

I have long advocated a motorcycle medic response as pioneered by Daytona Beach and other fire departments but i have been unable to convince the Fire District to adopt that model.


Posted by Tunbridge Wells
a resident of Menlo Park: Allied Arts/Stanford Park
on Jan 16, 2015 at 11:22 am

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I will say that the one time our family needed to call 911 for a medical emergency, the fire department was first on the scene and provided excellent care, and by the time the ambulance showed up they basically functioned as a very expensive ride to the hospital. I am grateful that we have a fire district with the resources to provide such good service to our community, but I do hope never to have to call upon them again.


Posted by Boadermom
a resident of Woodside: Emerald Hills
on Jan 16, 2015 at 3:57 pm

Until last Fall, I worked in East Palo Alto on Bay Road. I am surprised the article doesn't state that the main firehouse on University Avenue is under construction and is being rebuilt.


Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Jan 16, 2015 at 4:54 pm

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A new bigger and better fire station IS being built on University Ave in EPA including a 100 ft antenna that provide bay area wide communications - and done with the complete and timely cooperation of the City of East Palo Alto.


Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Jan 17, 2015 at 1:23 pm

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Here are more details from the Fire Chief on the response to the fire in East Palo Alto:

"The fire was at 2217 Pulgas Avenue in East Palo Alto on January 12, 2015



It was reported as a house fire and dispatched at 18.08 with Engine 2 (East Palo Alto) on-scene at 18.11 confirming they had a working fire with smoke coming from the front door and garage door. Engine 77 (East Menlo) arrived at 18.15 and backed up Engine 2 so they could make entry into the building to fight the fire per the OSHA 2 firefighters inside and 2 outside rule for safety and rescue. Great response times from our east side units but they can only do so much with 6 people on a fire because they need to fight the fire, provide a backup rescue team on standby, get a supply line from the hydrant, search and possibly rescue people then do advanced paramedic intervention, protect exposure structures, ventilate the building and conduct salvage if possible and everything goes right. That takes about 15 people to do it right, which is a first alarm assignment. When it goes wrong we call more alarms from further away and that takes even more time, that’s why we strive to be there fast and hit a fire hard so it doesn’t get away from us.



Engine 6 (Downtown Menlo) arrived at 18.19.13, they took University Avenue from Middlefield, so through Palo Alto, and beat Station 1 units (Middlefield Road) Engine, Truck and Battalion 1, who had radioed that they were stuck on Willow in grid lock traffic. E-1 arrived at 18.19.23, Truck at 18.20.09, Battalion Commander at 18.19.55.



Engine 5 (North Fairoaks) arrived at 18.20, so here is one of my points, traffic is dramatically affecting our response times at certain times of the day which has an impact on travel times, performance and safety. We strive to have all units on scene for a fire in 8 minutes (sooner if possible), for this fire it took 12 minutes. If something bad happens we may not have enough people on scene to either properly address it or keep it from getting worse and I worry about that.



Engine 5 went over the Marsh Road overpass, down Bayfront to University to the call and almost beat the Station 1 crews who are closer but used Willow Road. Engine 6, also further away, heard the station 1 crews were locked up on Willow and went through another jurisdiction, Palo Alto, which is not what I prefer they do, but they exercised good initiative and it worked to beat the Station 1 crews as well. I notified the Palo Alto Fire Chief and this will be a topic on our next meeting agenda.



Here’s my point, Willow Roads design makes it hard to navigate and for people to move out of our way. We use traffic pre-emption but when traffic is grid-locked it doesn’t help. We often go slowly against traffic to be able to move at all. Marsh and University through Palo Alto are better options at times because they are wider and have room for vehicles to yield to large pieces of emergency equipment but they are still heavily congested.. We realize all this traffic is a sign of a robust economy, that’s great news for everyone, we also realize that Marsh, Willow and University are feeders to the Dumbarton Bridge and our east side residents are harder to serve and under served at certain times of the day depending upon traffic and the volume of calls for service we receive in those areas."

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And here is my opinion:
In my opinion the City of Menlo Park continues to ignore the needs of its citizens for timely emergency response and the proposed M 2 up zoning, without providing for appropriate increases in emergency response resources and capabilities, is simply playing with lives.