Read the full story here Web Link posted Thursday, November 13, 2014, 5:41 PM
https://n2v.almanacnews.com/square/print/2014/11/13/time-inc-may-sell-sunset-campus-in-menlo-park
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Time Inc. may sell Sunset campus in Menlo Park
Original post made on Nov 13, 2014
Read the full story here Web Link posted Thursday, November 13, 2014, 5:41 PM
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a resident of Atherton: West Atherton
on Nov 13, 2014 at 5:53 pm
Why do they want to move?
a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Nov 13, 2014 at 6:16 pm
Tragic. Nothing short of tragic.
a resident of Menlo Park: Allied Arts/Stanford Park
on Nov 13, 2014 at 6:32 pm
Tunbridge Wells is a registered user.
I doubt it's that they *want* to move, it's that the bean counters at Time Headquarters have noticed how valuable that real estate is and figure that they can rent cheaper office space for the magazine somewhere else. Magazine publishing is struggling, sadly.
a resident of Atherton: West Atherton
on Nov 13, 2014 at 6:58 pm
Thanks, Mr. Wells. Sounds like the most reasonable explanation. Was just wondering if the Almanac had a definitive answer from Sunset/time.
a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Nov 13, 2014 at 7:25 pm
Gern is a registered user.
The office building at 200 Middlefield Road in Menlo Park, very close to the Sunset campus, sold recently for more than $50M, or about $1,193 per square foot (Web Link That fact alone likely cemented Sunset's exodus, never mind that the entire Lane Family is rolling over in their graves.
It's a shame there's no longer room in Bay Area communities for garden office zones. We lost the beautiful AT&T office property in Linfield Oaks (adjacent to Sunset) to medium-density housing -- nice housing, it must be said -- and now Sunset's acreage will likely end up another Stanford project in terms of scale, with how many hundreds more car trips clogging Willow and Middlefield Roads, the only vehicular access?
I have no idea what such a sale and subsequent move will mean for the Sunset brand but I'm not envisioning great things. We, as neighbors, will certainly miss them and their much-loved Celebration Weekend.
Gern
a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Nov 14, 2014 at 8:46 am
It was only a matter of time given land prices and the Time ownership.
a resident of another community
on Nov 14, 2014 at 8:48 am
I hope the communty rallies to ensure the building retain their historic importance. The South Building is an historic icon and no one should be able to change that.
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Nov 14, 2014 at 9:42 am
Peter Carpenter is a registered user.
If the community wants to designate the South Building as aHistorical Building please do that BEFORE it is sold. It would be unfair to a new buyer to devalue their purchase after the fact.
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Nov 14, 2014 at 9:50 am
City should try to buy the south property (PA side). It would be a beautiful park and the building could be used for education, social and civic purposes. It would make a great venue for corporate events, weddings, etc. The rentals alone would pay for the annual upkeep. Problem is coming up with the cash to buy it. Perhaps Mr. Zuckerbeg could chip in with an agreement that Facebook gets to use it for x number of events a year.
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Nov 14, 2014 at 10:21 am
Peter Carpenter is a registered user.
"City should try to buy the south property (PA side)"
The best way to do that would be to put a parcel tax on the ballot.
Here is what the citizens of Basel Switzerland did when faced with the possible loss of some great art:
Web Link
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Nov 14, 2014 at 11:39 am
The south campus would be a great place for a preschool or elementary school . . . just dreaming . . . if only the school district had the money.
a resident of Menlo Park: Allied Arts/Stanford Park
on Nov 14, 2014 at 12:21 pm
Maybe we can get more office space into that area.
That would be fantastic. Ray, please meet with Bohannon and Arrillaga and see if you can get this done.
a resident of Menlo Park: Belle Haven
on Nov 14, 2014 at 1:52 pm
Alan is a registered user.
How certain is this sale? People are talking as if it's a done deal.
a resident of Menlo Park: The Willows
on Nov 14, 2014 at 1:56 pm
The building is one thing, but I really hope they keep the garden and with some access for the public as they do now. I would hate to see the garden be built over or suffer through lack of maintenance (considerable burden though I daresay that is). Menlo Park doesn't really have that much that's distinctive or even mildly interesting for an outing or as a destination for a visitor. Sunset and Allied Arts is about it, and we can't afford to lose half of that inventory. If a parcel tax to fund a city intervention is what it takes to preserve it, I'd be all for it.
a resident of Menlo Park: Menlo Oaks
on Nov 14, 2014 at 6:04 pm
Perfect opportunity for the menlo park city school district - but, alas, the price tag may be a bit high!
a resident of Menlo Park: The Willows
on Nov 14, 2014 at 7:43 pm
My understanding is that a building can't be designated as historical unless the owner agrees, and Time Inc, as the owner of the property, would have to agree, which seems very unlikely.
Alan, Time Inc would like to sell the Sunset property by the end of this calendar year.
a resident of another community
on Nov 14, 2014 at 7:49 pm
pearl is a registered user.
Time, Inc. wants to sell? Anybody got Zuckerberg's number? A few million bucks is just pocket change to that precocious kid. ; )
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Nov 16, 2014 at 12:44 pm
Call me disgusted at this turn of events. Destroying beautiful buildings and local history -- all just to make lots of money. I am reminded of what Princess Leia said to Han Solo in the first "Star Wars" movie, "If money is all you want, then money is all you will get." Not love or beauty or caring about others. Just greed. For shame. For shame.
And no, I don't give a rip that Time, Inc., has the "right" to do this. However, they do have a corporate obligation to be good corporate citizens of whatever communities they are in -- and selling the Sunset HQ property and buildings is most definitely not good corporate citizenship. And, yes, a lot of the blame falls directly onto the shoulders of the Lane family for selling this priceless asset to a huge corporation in the first place.
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Nov 16, 2014 at 1:25 pm
Peter Carpenter is a registered user.
"And, yes, a lot of the blame falls directly onto the shoulders of the Lane family for selling this priceless asset to a huge corporation in the first place."
And what counter offer did the citizens of Menlo Park offer the Lane family at that time? NONE.
As noted above, when the citizens of Basel Switzerland were faced with the possible loss of some great art owned by a Basel resident they voted to tax themselves to buy the art! Do you think that the citizens of Menlo Park would ever rise to that standard?
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Nov 16, 2014 at 1:37 pm
Peter Carpenter is a registered user.
Web Link
"On 20 April 1967, a plane of Basel's Globe Air crashed and took 124 people to their deaths. The disaster led to the first grounding of a Swiss airline since air travel had started. The main shareholder of Globe Air, Peter A. Staechelin was held personally responsible had to meet all financial demands. Peter A. Staechelin didn't posses a lot of cash, but art worth millions was hanging in Basel's Art Museum. His father had moved the family's art collection into a foundation. The pictures could not be sold unless a family member got into severe financial distress. That moment had come.
When the family trust sold the first painting "La Berceuse" by Vincent van Gogh out of the country to the Unite States, Basel's art world went into collective shock. The sale of more paintings loomed over the Basel Art Museum. Among the paintings viewed for a possible sale were two important paintings by Pablo Picasso: "Arlequin assis" (1923) and "Les deux frères" (1905).
Franz Meyer was the director of the Art Museum Basel. He managed the extraordinary and brought Peter A. Staechelin, the government, and businesses to one table. They reached an agreement that the city would be able to buy the two paintings by Pablo Picasso for 8.4 million Swiss francs. The deal was that if the private sector would bring in 2.4 million, the remaining 6 million would be paid the city."
Basel's parliament passed the urgent motion in record time, but voters opposed the credit and asked for a public ballot. The credit was under contention to the last, but Basel's voters balloted in favour of the credit.
Pablo Picasso followed the student protests and the fact that the people had voted in a ballot to purchase his pictures. He responded by donating four of his paintings to Basel.
Would Menlo Park have done the same?
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Nov 17, 2014 at 1:19 pm
I think that Palo Alto Square theater was once up for a remodel or sale and the PA city council said no, if there was a change it would have to be another theater. The Planning Commission has power under architectural control not to approve changes making a big negative change to the city's future and this might qualify given the building history and public benefits provided by Sunset's management. There needs to be publicity that demolition of the existing property may face unified resistance from residents and city officials, unless there is something drastically wrong with the structure. Sunset may be sunsetted but the building can remain.
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Nov 17, 2014 at 4:15 pm
Peter Carpenter is a registered user.
The Sunset property is zoned for a type of use ( C-1 Administrative and Professional District, Restrictive) which is not unique to its current use. If it is sold with that current zoning then the City has few alternatives but to allow the new owner to redevelop the property for any use which meets the current zoning.
If the citizens want to do something different then they should find a way to purchase the property.
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Nov 17, 2014 at 4:16 pm
Peter Carpenter is a registered user.
"The Planning Commission has power under architectural control not to approve changes making a big negative change"
Wrong - the Planning Commission has no such power.
a resident of Menlo Park: Linfield Oaks
on Nov 18, 2014 at 12:58 pm
@Peter: Planning Commission control is limited but the boundary is somewhat porous:
MP Zoning Ordindance 16.02.050 Interpretation by planning commission. Whenever the planning commission of the city is called to determine whether or not the use of land or any structure in any district is similar in character to the particular uses allowed in a district, the commission shall consider the following factors as criteria for their determination:
(1) Effect upon the public health, safety, and general welfare of the neighborhood involved and the city at large;
(2) Effect upon traffic conditions;
(3) Effect upon the orderly development of the area in question and the city at large in regard to the general planning of the whole community.
For some, this language is sufficiently broad for the Planning Commission to consider a range of issues (site planning, scale, uses) involving significant changes to large parcels.
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Nov 18, 2014 at 1:42 pm
Peter Carpenter is a registered user.
Dagwood - You miss my point. IF something is proposed that complies with the existing zoning the Planning Commission may "consider" whatever it wants but the Planning Commission has zero approval authority except with regard to providing "guidance" on architectural design.
a resident of another community
on Nov 18, 2014 at 1:47 pm
pearl is a registered user.
I sent a note to Mark Zuckerberg suggesting he buy the Sunset campus property, and use it for a Facebook conference center. Seems that way the Sunset campus and buildings could be preserved.
a resident of another community
on Nov 20, 2014 at 9:14 pm
As a Sunset insider, I think the community should know that Time Inc has every intention of selling the property in the next 4-6 weeks (by the end of 2014). If the community wants to save the iconic 1952 Cliff May buildings and Thomas Church gardens, we need to act immediately to establish historical status. I strongly urge anyone with any experience protecting historical buildings or culturally significant buildings to spear-head this effort.
The news that Menlo College was interested in buying the property and preserving it is very hopeful. However, there is not enough time. As of Wednesday (11/19/14) when the article was published, Menlo College had not yet been in touch with TIme Inc. TIme Inc has already been showing potential buyers the property and marketing it as a prime investment in Silicon Valley. As someone who cares deeply about the property, I think the sale and potential redevelopment would be a devastating loss to the community and the history of the West.