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For a truly open discussion on "Why we need to get rid of anonymous comments".

Original post made by Bob, Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park, on Mar 15, 2011

Editor please leave this open to all posters including the non-registered or for the anonymous as some call us.
For a truly open and fair discussion of the topic presented by Peter Carpenter then everyone must be able to present their views.
I find it a bitcontradictory that on one hand Peter puts so much welcome effort into the openness of local gov't (Brown Act) but on the other feels it's ok to decide who may comment or voice their opinions in this venue. Going by Peter's comments in presenting his anonymous argument we shouldn't be able to vote in gov't elections anonymously as our vote is tainted and somehow unacceptable w/o knowing who we are.
It is very telling that Peter ends his post with "Let the anonymous attacks begin," but sets he posting so that only registered comments are permitted. And it is very sad that Peter assumes that every anonymous comment is an attack upon him.
For those of you who value your a'nonymousness, comment away.
BTW for another viewpoint read these Boston Globe articles by Jesse Singal.
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If you don't want to read his articles the following quote is quite apt.
"The collateral damage it would bring — a contrived quieting and flattening of the debate, and a closing off of the sorts of scoops and expansive discussions enabled by anonymous commenting — wouldn’t be worth it. A better solution is for newspapers to simply step up enforcement of their existing comments guidelines, and to quickly and mercilessly delete the comments and ban the IP addresses of serial abusive commenters."


Comments

Posted by peter carpenter
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Mar 15, 2011 at 4:21 pm

peter carpenter is a registered user.

A better solution is for newspapers to simply step up enforcement of their existing comments guidelines, and to quickly and mercilessly delete the comments and ban the IP addresses of serial abusive commenters."

That would be so welcome on this forum.


Posted by peter carpenter
a resident of Atherton: Lindenwood
on Mar 15, 2011 at 4:24 pm

peter carpenter is a registered user.

I see voting as a system wherein each vote has equal value and hence there is no need to 'weigh' the experience or qualifications of the voter. When it comes to opinions then I think that the strength of the argument as well as the source of the opinion are relevant to evaluating that opinion - someone with a vested interest in X may make a strong argument supporting X but their argument needs to be considered in light of their vested interest - that is hard to do if X's vested interest is hidden behind an anonymous name. And with facts there is a need to document those facts; just because someone calls himself truth that does not mean that everything that person says in truthful.


Posted by anonymous
a resident of Atherton: other
on Mar 15, 2011 at 5:10 pm

Peter: is it really so bad to scan comments and ignore those you don't care for, as opposed a plan whose cost is to stifle diverse opinion?

When I drive down ECR and I see a Bush/Cheney bumpersticker, I'm mildly offended (although assume it's a joke at this point) but I don't try and get DMV to monitor bumpers.

Also note the vast increase in the open thread participation relative to your closed threads. Especially yours - you had a zillion posts in the open thread (since locked.)

And I thought it was great that you participated.

Thank you, MP Bob and Almanac Online for leaving open forums open.


Posted by Menlo Voter
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Mar 15, 2011 at 7:06 pm

I've said it before and I'll say it again, there are those of us that would like to comment on this forum and have strong opinions, but we also have to make a living in this community. We cannot afford to have our strong opinions effect our ability to make a living. Especially now. Monitoring of these forums with removal of out of bounds comments is sufficient. If everyone here had to post with their real names, my prediction is that this forum would soon only be populated by about five or six posters. I personally enjoy being able to express my opinions without concern about it impacting my "real" life. As one who posts here regularly, others who post here regularly probably have a pretty good handle on what my areas of expertise are and what "value" to place on my opinions. On the other hand, you know the old saying about opinions - everyone has one.


Posted by WhoRupeople
a resident of another community
on Mar 16, 2011 at 2:58 pm

First, yes, thanks Bob for taking the initiative to put this up without the registration restriction. I for one, while I post anonymously for reasons quite similar to Menlo Voter) can see both sides of the issue. Peter has made some great points on this subject, as has Menlo Voter, and in the past Pogo. I think the most useful input I've gotten (and I'm sorry it on this forum but I don't remember the authors) are two things. First, if your going to post anonymously, do so with honesty and conviction to your belief on a subject, but direct you "attacks" toward the subject and the arguments that are counter to your position-not at those who present those arguments. Second, like with any forum or source of information, use the positions of others to expand your viewpoint on the subject, but at the end of the day, form your opinions on facts, not just well stated opinions by people you don't really know.


Posted by Menlo Voter
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Mar 16, 2011 at 7:02 pm

Well said Who