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Cargill e-mails: Red flag, or red herring?
Original post made on Jan 26, 2010
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Comments
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Jan 26, 2010 at 2:30 pm
Are our "illustrious" council members and former council members nuts? Why should Menlo Park suffer higher density housing, higher traffic and more pollution along El Camino in our town to appease Collacchi's fear of Redwood City development. I say any MP council member who pushes or this plan should be ousted from MP council. They're supposed to be looking out for our city!
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Jan 27, 2010 at 10:22 am
Come on, think about it. Collacchi's scheme is nothing more than a shell game. Who do you think was behind the death of housing in the Derry Project and the Cadillac site project? This council majority can't approve any housing developments in their own jurisdiction to address MP's housing needs much less approve housing "along El Camino Real" for Redwood City.
It's called, "throw it up against the wall and see if anyone salutes or at minimum cause a delay while the mess on the floor gets cleaned up."
Ideas are cheap; action actually costs and creates change. Our council majority is anti housing and that's a fact.
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Jan 27, 2010 at 10:26 am
I think it is pathetic that the MP City Council has done what they have done. Save The Bay and the City Council should have action taken against them. I live in Menlo Park and think the Redwood City project is a great idea. Nobody ever asked me my opinion for the Council before attacking Redwood City.
a resident of Menlo Park: Felton Gables
on Jan 27, 2010 at 10:57 am
The hypocrisy of the "residentialists" - Cohen, Ferguson, Robinson, Collacchi, etc., and all the accusations they threw at Duboc, Winkler etc. for not having a council that was "transparent" etc. is astounding! That's all we heard in the last election that brought in this new group! Now we have back room deals against Cargill, we have Ferguson and Cohen weighing in and having secret meetings about Bohannon's project. What the heck is going on??? Seriously. Say all you want about Lee Duboc, at least she's up front and honest and is public with EVERYTHING.
This is becoming a joke!
a resident of Menlo Park: other
on Jan 27, 2010 at 2:56 pm
Red herring. Collecting information and discussing various possibilities is a far cry from making a deal, much less a backroom deal. I have not seen anything from this council that makes me think there is any subterfuge, unlike the prior council, with their private meetings that violated the Brown Act and their pre-meeting agreements.
I suspect that most of you who commented above (assuming that more than one person posted the above comments) are looking at this from a political angle, trying to figure out how to get your candidate -- if you can scare one up -- on the council this November. You don't care about what's best for this city or about what Cargill does to the bay. Instead, you're just looking for material that you can use to attack the council. Pretty sad.
a resident of Menlo Park: Allied Arts/Stanford Park
on Jan 27, 2010 at 3:05 pm
Seems to me, the development of Redwood City Baylands is a bad idea no matter who suggests it. Any grade schooler knows, that filling in any part of our precious bay ecosystem will continue to cause drastic negatives to our bay area ecology.
There is a moral issue here, but it certainly isn't the job of Cohen, Ferguson, Robinson, Collacchi, etc., to use it as a barter chip. Besides, when these council nimrods begin their negotiating/power-play tactics, we all end up losing. Perhaps this is a job for the Peninsula Open Space Trust, who represent us all and save what is important for every living thing to enjoy — human and non-human.
a resident of Menlo Park: Felton Gables
on Jan 27, 2010 at 4:17 pm
I think it's pretty sad "red hot" that you continue to accuse past council people of violating the Brown Act when you have absolutely NO evidence to support that. The information that I cited above is public knowledge, you and your band NEVER cite facts. If the Brown Act was violated, get the evidence and take some people to court, until then how about citing some facts that matter?
By the way, I too think the development of Redwood City Baylands is not a very good idea, it should remain untouched. Kind of an odd stance from someone that supported Duboc and Winkler, and the VERY small parcel of land they proposed to be used for athletic fields. I still think their proposal was one we all should have had an honest debate about, and perhaps we would still have had the same outcome, but the day your crew started passing around fliers with open oil barrels and dead birds...............that's where we lost all civility and common sense.
a resident of Menlo Park: Downtown
on Jan 27, 2010 at 4:56 pm
I don't have a "crew" or a "band." You must be confusing me with another rock star. I am a long-time resident who has served on a commission and gone to a few dozen council meetings and been involved in other community efforts. Why do you need to categorize people who arguments you don't like? This may blow your mind, but I supported Lee when she ran for council. There are many shades of gray in this town; it's not a black and white universe.
Measure J was so problematic that it went down to stunning defeat; somehow Boyle managed to get elected anyway. I don't want to rehash those arguments here -- that would be pointless -- suffice to say that many of us were well informed about all the benefits and drawbacks of developing that site for athletic use. The voters averted a nightmare with an 80-20 vote against.
Some of you seem to forget that Menlo Park residents tend to be pretty well educated and not that dumb. Half-baked propaganda and pretty pictures don't fly in this city. People will search until they have all the facts. And I suspect most residents can see right through this feeble Cargill effort to frame our council members.
a resident of another community
on Jan 27, 2010 at 5:52 pm
WOW......as usual, reasonable, and not sounding like you are playing footsies with anyone.
As for the "feeble Cargill effort to frame to frame our council members"............well, that is really being loyal to this entire area where there has never been any kind of malfeance.
I believe you, thousands wouldn't.
a resident of another community
on Jan 27, 2010 at 5:53 pm
"to frame to frame"