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A future for Tinker Park?

Original post made on Sep 17, 2009

A transformation of the Hillview campus, set to start next year, would have eliminated Tinker Park and used the space as a sort of landscape buffer. But, acting on a request from the city of Menlo Park, the Menlo Park City School District's board opted to carve out a new one-eighth-acre spot for Tinker Park from the 9-acre campus.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Thursday, September 17, 2009, 11:26 AM

Comments

Posted by Former Tinker Park user
a resident of Menlo Park: Fair Oaks
on Sep 17, 2009 at 1:03 pm

My kids enjoyed the park very much even though we had our own yard w/ plenty play toys. The park is a nice place to socialize, both for the children and the adults with them. Keep it one way or another!


Posted by Tennis Player
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Sep 17, 2009 at 3:28 pm

I'm happy about Tinker Park, but sad about the tennis courts. First Oak Knoll, now Hillview - surely there is a way to save these school-sited tennis courts! People from the community play on the Hillview courts every sunny weekend and weeknight and all summer long. Jordan Middle School in Palo Alto has combination basketball/tennis courts - two basketball courts run sideways across two tennis courts. Soccer players use them when the fields are too wet to play on, passing the ball over the net. I've seen volleyball players out there too. Seems like the school board just doesn't want to be bothered to think creatively about this issue.


Posted by thanks Maria
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Sep 17, 2009 at 8:10 pm

"We have lots of other parks". Newest school board member Hilton should go check out Oak Knoll and see how accessible the remaining play area is to neighborhood kids. As in, not! It's all concrete and exposed to the blazing sun. Oh well, guess they just have to play alone in their own backyards, never to meet other kids on the playground. Typical of the way this school board has operated. Build it bigger because we have the taxpayer funded bond money to spend on edifices, not on playgrounds for the neighbor kids.
Guess the kids will have to play on Astroturf when the real grass gets torn up.


Posted by Excellent!
a resident of Menlo Park: Menlo Oaks
on Sep 17, 2009 at 9:55 pm

Gee, it only took 2entries before we got the Oak Knoll Neighborhood Haters to respond and back on the blog! You guys took the entire summer off, what's up with that?! Glad you're back, and we love the new campus, lots of big, new, tall buildings, with a very long drop off area!
Thank you school board, thank you Maria, for building the best school possible for our kids!


Posted by Put the students frist
a resident of Hillview Middle School
on Sep 18, 2009 at 7:30 am

This is a school site, and the needs of the Hillview Students must be prioitized above non-school uses such as tennis courts and toddler playgrounds.


Posted by Tennis Player
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Sep 18, 2009 at 9:51 am

Dear Put the students frist (sic):

Last spring about 90 Hillview students joined the Hillview tennis team, so how are the courts a non-school use? Why are basketball courts a school use but not tennis courts? Why can't the two be combined as at Jordan?

Guess those 90 tennis-playing students (and their younger siblings) are just out of luck.


Posted by hv mom
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Sep 18, 2009 at 11:02 am

Hillview is the only middle school in the district. With the school population growing rapidly, the needs of the students must take precedence over a small park (there are many other places that tots can play) or a tennis court, which takes up a relatively large amount of land.

There are no "basketball courts" per se at Hillview. There is a multi, which is used for everything, including school assemblies (no auditorium at Hillview), concerts, plays, school dances, and PE classes. Yes, it has hoops on the wall so that kids can use it for basketball. If you can figure out a way to rig up a tennis court in the multi, I bet the administration would be amenable to letting kids play tennis there. But the school has no responsibility to provide recreational opportunities for non-students.

I expect the tennis players at Hillview will practice elsewhere. There are dozens of Hillview students who swim, play lacrosse, do gymnastics, participate in track & field, dance, etc -- all must pursue these extracurricular activities in a different venue. There is simply no way that Hillview can accommodate all extracurricular interests, nor should it. It is first and foremost a school that is focused on academics, not a training ground for wannabe Wimbledonians.


Posted by Another mom
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Sep 19, 2009 at 9:46 am

I was under the impression that the new Hillview was going to have 4 - 6 outdoor basketball courts on some kind of blacktop like they have now. It seems to me that a couple of these could be multi-use sport courts. I thought the last plan was to have them on the Santa Cruz side of the site, so they would need to have fairly high fences to keep the balls from going into the streets anyway. Why not try to serve as many needs as possible?

I seriously doubt any of the current people using the tennis courts are aiming for Wimbledon. Most are probably looking for some easy and inexpensive form of fun and exercise that doesn't require huge amounts of equipment or money, at a location they can walk or bike to from their homes.


Posted by Stephanie
a resident of Menlo Park: Allied Arts/Stanford Park
on Sep 23, 2009 at 12:53 pm

I'm sorry to see all the tennis courts go, I had my first lessons on those courts many, many years ago. I never had any dreams of Wimbledon, I didn't play on my college team, and I didn't go pro. Instead I played with my sibling, cousins, and neighborhood children. I developed a healthy interest in other sports and tried them out too.

Many of our children do go elsewhere to take lessons and practice. All that means is that the parents have either money to burn or are going into debt for sports will give their children the opportunity to try these sports (tennis, basketball, etc). Yet the school board put in a soccer field when there are so many already in our town and the surrounding ones. Shouldn't the same "logic" apply? If all the children that attend Hillview (and other schools in MP) are to be well rounded, shouldn't they have access at the place they go to get the rest of their education?

I know the school needed a serious redesign, and space is severely limited...but a middle school (and even the upper grades in an elementary school) can go up. Stairs aren't impossible.

As unappreciative as this may have sounded, thank you to the school board for the work they do. You do hard work and make difficult decisions.


Posted by Betty
a resident of Menlo Park: Menlo Oaks
on Sep 23, 2009 at 1:56 pm

Pretty much all of the new buildings at Menlo Park schools are going to two story buildings, including Hillview. There's no more room to sprawl out.


Posted by hv mom
a resident of Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Sep 23, 2009 at 3:16 pm

There are not nearly enough soccer fields in town to accommodate all users. Note that since Atherton has no public soccer fields, MP recreational facilities must serve Atherton residents too.

Hillview will not have a dedicated soccer field per se; it will have a large area with artificial grass that will be used primarily for PE classes. Hundreds of children will use the field every day, and after hours, some of them will return to play football or soccer.

Tennis courts take a lot of room and cannot be used for a lot of different purposes, whereas a big expanse of grass can be used for other things, just as a multi can.

Many public parks have tennis courts, and residents can play on those. The school's priority is to serve students, not provide recreational space for everyone's siblings, cousins, and neighbors.