Girl Scouts gathered to sing camp songs outside of Independence Hall in Woodside in anticipation of a Town Council meeting on Tuesday night, June 27, to oppose a new ordinance that limits bus access into Huddart Park. About 100 people filled council chambers, some in support and some opposed, during an hour and a half of public comments.
Of the 28 speakers, there were an equal number of people who spoke in favor of and against the ordinance, which passed in October 2022 and prohibits vehicles over 35 feet in length, like the Girl Scout day camp buses, from driving the last half-mile of Kings Mountain Road to the entrance of Huddart Park. Town staff cited the potential danger to other motorists and cyclists posed by large vehicles traveling the narrow and winding roadway and crossing over into the oncoming lane while navigating sharp curves.
The Peninsula Girl Scouts have been vocal over the last two weeks about their opposition to the law. The town on June 26 offered the group a permit for its two-week camp in July, and offered to revisit the ordinance and the issue of future bus use later in the summer. The offer hasn't satisfied the Girl Scouts, who are seeking a longer-term solution that applies to all groups using the San Mateo County park located at 1100 Kings Mountain Road.
Woodside Mayor Chris Shaw has said that with the long-term closure of Highway 84 since early March, the town can't afford to have Kings Mountain Road blocked if a bus ends up going off the road or can't make turns, especially heading into fire season. The town's ordinance was not arbitrary, he said.
County Supervisor Ray Mueller said the county could cover the costs of Parks rangers or Sheriff's officers escorting the buses into camp. He also suggested the town nix the bus permit fee.
Bicyclists and locals shared their stories of dangerous conditions on the road.
Woodside resident and biker George Burkhard said he was recently injured — his lip cut up into his gums — when a school bus on Kings Mountain Road went across the centerline. The person in front of him made an emergency stop and he slammed into the car. He supported the idea of an escort to assist the buses.
"There is an ongoing danger," he said. "I really appreciate the need for Scouts and for everyone to get access to our parks. ... This is one of the reasons I moved up here, especially as a cyclist and also as a lover of the outdoors. But there are other options out there that preserve safety for everyone."
Rob Waring, a board member for the nonprofit Safe Shared Streets, noted that there's got to be some other way to get people into this park other than using large buses.
"If someone is killed because they hit a bus or just trying to negotiate this road, how much is that worth?" he said.
Another asked: "How would you feel to have a bus full of Girl Scouts watch someone die plowing into the side of the bus? How do you explain that?"
Woodside resident Ehsan Farkhondeh said the issue at stake isn't an equity issue but a geometry issue.
"And at no point did you guys (the Town Council) nefariously say you wanted to limit access to people who can't make it up there," he said. "I challenge anybody to go up there with a 40-foot vehicle and stay on their side of the double yellow and drive to Huddart Park. It is not possible."
Nancy Ridgeway, a board member for Friends of Huddart and Wunderlich Parks, said the ordinance is "inadvertently placing a burden on our most marginalized communities."
The group had to scramble in early June to rearrange plans for about 125 students from East Palo Alto Charter School and Redwood City Early Childhood Development Center who were signed up for its hiking program in Huddart Park and switch it to Wunderlich Park, according to organizers.
"The new Kings Mountain Road ordinance has, and will continue, to severely affect our nature hiking program for children, inadvertently placing a burden on our most marginalized communities and adding to the systemic barriers to low-income schools that have a hard time providing field trips for students," she said. "They have trouble obtaining volunteer parent drivers and chaperones and they also lack funds for paying for field trips, including expensive buses. We remove these barriers so that all children can experience the magic of our redwood forests."
San Mateo County Parks Foundation Executive Director Michele Beasley told the council that the purpose of her group is to help residents enjoy the significant mental, physical and emotional benefits of time well spent in nature.
"I was shocked and disappointed to learn that the Woodside Town Council is doing its best to create more barriers," she said. "Barriers that specifically prevent children from visiting Huddart Park. Huddart Park is a favorite destination for field trips as it offers miles of trails and lots of picnic areas. ... One would think that such a drastic measure impacting a county facility would have been shared with San Mateo County at the very least."
Others pointed out that the ordinance has been in place since the end of the year and discussed at publicly noticed meetings.
Resident and former council candidate Steve Lubin suggested that if the county removed the guard rail at the intersection of the lower service entrance to the park and Greer Road, there's enough room to back the bus around there and it would be a great place to unload kids.
"It's not far from where they parked the buses now," he said.
Girl Scouts meeting with the town last week
Girls Scouts representatives met with both the San Mateo County Sheriff's Office and town staff to discuss a compromise on Wednesday, June 21. The town plans to have signs alerting other drivers that camp buses will be on Kings Mountain Road during the morning drop-off and afternoon pick-up hours, according to an email sent to the Girl Scouts on June 21 that summarized the meeting. The Sheriff's Department and the County Parks Department plans to assist in getting the Girl Scouts' buses into the park.
The Girl Scouts said it submitted a bus permit request on June 12 and was informed it was on "hold" because the electric buses it chartered for the day camp are 39.5 feet long. The town denied the permit on June 15. Historically, the Girl Scouts said they have used school buses that were even bigger, at 40 to 45 feet long.
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Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Jun 28, 2023 at 2:13 pm
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on Jun 28, 2023 at 2:13 pm
Packs of bikers bikers on King's Mountain and throughout Woodside, Portola Valley and the Peninsula ride in aggressive packs and flout traffic rules and common courtesy. I find it richly ironic that the bikers are complaining the occasional bus carry Girl Scouts is going to infringe on the rights of cyclists to blast down King's Mountain throwing caution to the wind. Having said that, Ray Mueller is a savvy politician and I trust him to orchestrate a reasonable tradeoff between the various interests. My sympathies are entirely with the Girl Scouts and I'm happy they showed up in good numbers to learn about democracy and bolster their case!
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Atherton: Lindenwood
on Jun 28, 2023 at 2:15 pm
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on Jun 28, 2023 at 2:15 pm
I do understand the buses that are long are not suited for the tight winding turns on Kings Mountain Road. Being a former bike rider, traveling on Kings Mountain Road is risky and made more dangerous when a long bus is on the road. Fortunately, I never had the teeth-clinching experience dealing with a bus.
The Girl Scouts can avoid the twisty section of Kings Mountain Road with a little preparation and cooperation. Before the climb, enter Huddard Park from Greer Road. The entrance is gated, but it might be worth seeing if they can have access from the bottom of Huddard Park.
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Menlo Park: other
on Jun 28, 2023 at 3:53 pm
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on Jun 28, 2023 at 3:53 pm
Mr. Farkhondeh is correct, that this is not an equity issue—it is a geometry issue.
The Girl Scouts and other groups can charter shorter buses if they need to use Kings Mountain Road. Yes, the Girl Scout staff chartered buses that are too long. Fix it - just get shorter ones, probably one extra to distribute the passengers.
Girl Scout staff and management made a mistake. Help them order different ones right now and minimize the risk on the road this summer. The ordinance in appropriate and necessary.
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Woodside: Mountain Home Road
on Jun 28, 2023 at 6:26 pm
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on Jun 28, 2023 at 6:26 pm
It's not just about cyclists. It's about all users of KMR encountering long vehicles: trucks, trailers, delivery trucks, and yes buses. A school bus full of kids was involved (caused) an accident two weeks ago which was featured on the evening news:
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The car barely stopped in time while ending up in the ditch and the bike rear ended the car. From the video neither the car or bike seem to be speeding or tailgating.
Stop making this into something it is not. Vehicles that are too long cannot navigate the turns on KMR and cross into or completely takeover the opposite lane - regularly.
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Woodside: other
on Jun 29, 2023 at 10:23 am
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on Jun 29, 2023 at 10:23 am
baysider - Such an obvious solution, isn't it?
Yet, the participants prefer to employ absurd, over-the-top hyperbole like claiming Woodside is against the Girl Scouts, that this ordinance was done secretly, their solution is 700 cars (each carrying a single girl scout, of course) going up and down the hill twice a day, or that Woodside should just close down Kings Mountain Road. All of those claims were made on Tuesday night at the meeting.
Uhhhh... NO. HOW ABOUT JUST USING SMALLER BUSES? UPS uses smaller trucks in Woodside and our trash pick up trucks are smaller too. That's the price we pay for living along a steep, narrow, winding road.
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Menlo Park: Central Menlo Park
on Jun 30, 2023 at 8:11 am
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on Jun 30, 2023 at 8:11 am
The ordinance impacts more than just the Girl Scouts. Schools have field trips to Huddart. Why would a school district or fleet operator invest in buses that are no more than 35 feet long just to meet the Woodside ordinance? What if Woodside changes ordinance in the future to no more than 31 feet long?
Before enacting the ordinance, did Woodside look for alternatives? How about:
1. Install blind spot mirrors (this could help motorists and cyclist too)?
2. Partner with San Mateo County Park to improve access via Greer Rd?
3. Examine feasibility to expand KMR from Huddart to Greer Rd?
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Woodside: other
on Jun 30, 2023 at 9:43 pm
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on Jun 30, 2023 at 9:43 pm
Actually, there is a very easy solution: smaller buses.
It will be far cheaper than trying to widen Kings Mountain Road. Have you ever driven that roadway - there isn't a way to make it wider. Besides, widening that roadway would cost MILLIONS.
Lots of companies and organizations use smaller vehicles in our area. For instance, UPS, Amazon, and GreenWaste use smaller trucks because it's simply too narrow and windy. Even moving companies use smaller trucks there.
We love the girl scouts but the parents and organizers should show some consideration for residents who depend on these roadways 24 hours a day, 365 days a year - not just for a few weeks during the summer.
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Atherton: other
on Jul 5, 2023 at 2:24 pm
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on Jul 5, 2023 at 2:24 pm
"Can't we all get along"? It does not appear that the Almanac is helping to solve this dilemma. There should be three adults in a room to negotiate a solution to the problem. It is clearly solvable if people sit back & "work for the common good".
Get the Girl Scout leader, Woodside staff & County staff in a room & work something out. That is what our taxes pay the staff to do
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Woodside: other
on Jul 7, 2023 at 9:02 am
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on Jul 7, 2023 at 9:02 am
CyberVoter -
That was done - there was a meeting.
As a result of that meeting, an accommodation was made with the Sheriff's Department providing an escort for these longer buses to protect the safety of those living the area and those (bicycles, cars) using the roadway. Unfortunately, the camp doesn't seem to be satisfied with this generous accommodation.
Next year, the camp needs to get smaller vehicles and comply with the law that is there for everyone's safety and protection.
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Menlo Park: other
on Jul 7, 2023 at 11:23 am
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on Jul 7, 2023 at 11:23 am
Pogo:
Thanks for the extra information.You are providing more evidence that the Almanac is NOT providing real value in "Investigative Reporting". Assuming what you post is accurate, it would seem like a reasonable way to solve 2023 & then revisit possible solutions after this year of evaluation.
I highly recommend that the Almanac act as real "Investigative, value-added reporters" & not merely press release repeaters with a personal bias.
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Woodside: Mountain Home Road
on Jul 8, 2023 at 3:59 pm
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on Jul 8, 2023 at 3:59 pm
CyberVoter,
You are a frequent contributor in the comments section and I find you to be interesting. However, your comments and criticisms (above) of the Almanac from July 7th are unfair and incorrect.
The article concludes with a final section headlined:"Girl Scouts meeting with the town last week". The following two paragraphs outline the participants and solutions which have been put in place for 2023.
I agree with you, Pogo, and others that the simplest and logical solution for 2024 is shorter buses.